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Every weekday you will find a journal entry here from someone different in our church family. 
 
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Proverbs 12

 

Scripture

Proverbs 12:14, 18, 25

14 From the fruit of their lips people are filled with good things,
    and the work of their hands brings them reward.

18 The words of the reckless pierce like swords,
    but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

25 Anxiety weighs down the heart,
    but a kind word cheers it up.

Observation

I continue to love the directness of Proverbs.  I literally laughed out loud with verse one

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
    but whoever hates correction is stupid.”

We aren’t allowed to say stupid in our house…but there it is in the Bible.  No minced words. 🙂

As we continue to read through the book, though, it can be summarized in a few words – live righteously!  Expanded a bit more…to live righteously, we must:

  • heed counsel
  • watch our words
  • work
  • promote peace

Understanding

The power of our words is mentioned many times throughout the Bible. From the power to speak life and healing…

Proverbs 16:24 – Gracious words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.

To the importance of “fixing” God’s words to our hearts and minds and teaching them to generations to come…

Deuteronomy 11:18-21 – Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 19 Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 20 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates, 21 so that your days and the days of your children may be many in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors, as many as the days that the heavens are above the earth.

In short, our words have power…the power to heal, to bring peace, to speak life and also to speak death and destruction.  But why are our words so important?  It is because our words speak to what is in our hearts. 

Matthew 12:34b For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Proverbs 4:23 Watch over your heart with all diligence, For from it flow the springs of life.

Proverbs 16:23 The heart of the wise instructs his mouth And adds persuasiveness to his lips.

Matthew 15:18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a man.

So, in order to live righteously, we must watch our words and guard our hearts.

Life Application

God, may we be mindful of the power of our words today – choosing wisely when and how to speak.  May we consciously speak life into the lives around us – whether in prayer or in conversation with them.  May we be overflowing with your grace, your mercy, your kindness and your love – bringing peace and joy, understanding and love into our interactions with others.  And, in doing so, may people encounter you and come to seek and know you more.  May we also guard our hearts – being mindful of what we surround ourselves with, what we take in…that our words may not fall prey to the enemy.

In your great and powerful name, we pray.  Amen.  

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– Rei



Proverbs 11

 

Scripture

Proverbs 11:24-25

24 One person gives freely, yet gains even more;
    another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.

25 A generous person will prosper;
    whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.

Observation – What does it say?

Solomon observes in his God-given wisdom that it’s the generous who prosper, not the stingy. And those who withhold selfishly are the ones who end up broke.

Understanding – What does it mean?

The kingdom seems upside down at times; it seems to go against common sense. The way to see your bank account grow couldn’t possibly be to make regular withdraws and give that money away. But we see this kind of upside down principal throughout scripture. To truly live, Jesus tells us to die. To become the highest, he tells us to make ourselves the lowest. To become the greatest, Jesus commands us to be the servant of all.

The only way God will entrust us with more is if we are faithful with what he has already given us – whether money, talent, gifts, relationships, etc. And the way to be faithful with what God has given us, is to give it freely. As we are faithful, he will entrust us with more. The way to gain is to give; the way to be refreshed is to refresh others.

Life Application

Don’t wait until I’m rich to give freely. The question isn’t, “How much do you have?” But rather, “What are you doing with what you do have?”

God, may we be a faithful people and a generous people! Forgive us for the times we’ve clung to the money and resources you’ve given us in fear that we won’t someday have enough. We trust you to provide for us and we want to be a means of blessing for others. Show us who you’re asking us to give to and how much, and may we be obedient when you speak… even when it doesn’t make sense. Amen.
 
-Levi Thompson
 
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Proverbs 10

 

Scripture

Proverbs 10:29

“The way of the LORD is a refuge for the blameless, but it is the ruin of those who do evil.”

‭‭Observation-What does it say?

These proverbs show the difference between the consequences of the choices of the wise, verses the consequences of the choices of the foolish. The following are a few of the different paths that are mentioned in this chapter.

A wise son vs. a foolish son

Righteous vs. wicked

Lazy hands vs. diligent hands

Prudent son vs. disgraceful son

Wise in heart vs. chattering fool

Walking in integrity vs. walking a crooked path

Love vs. Hatred

Those who heed discipline vs. those who ignore correction.

Understanding-What does it mean?

In order to live a pure and blameless life, we must take refuge in Jesus. His grace is new every morning because His love and faithfulness has no end. 

“For you save a humble people, but the haughty (prideful) eyes you bring down. For it is you who light my lamp; the Lord my God lightens my darkness. For by you I can run against a troop, and by my God I can leap over a wall. This God—his way is perfect; the word of the Lord proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.” Psalms‬ ‭18:27-30‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Life Application

A wise life is led in humility and through complete surrender to Jesus Christ. It has nothing to do with what we are able to accomplish on our own.

“To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”” Luke‬ ‭18:9-14‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The story of the Prodigal Son always gets to me. (See Luke 15:11-32). If you don’t feel you are good enough or not as “spiritual” as him or her over there or it’s too late to turn your life around, here’s some news. The awesome thing about Jesus is that at the foot of the cross, we are all the same. He gave the same grace to the younger son who left and the same grace to the older son who was prideful and jealous. The master will search for that one lost coin and will search for that one lost sheep until He finds him (Luke 15). There is rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents. (Luke 15:10)

Thank You Jesus for rejoicing over me when I returned from my rebellious/foolish path and returned to You. I pray for anyone struggling with a secret sin today, that you would extinguish the lies of the enemy who says to stay in darkness. Please help restore others back to You, so that we can rejoice together. Help us remain humble and submitted to You to continue to walk the wise path you have called us to. In Your Name we pray, Amen.

 
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-Michelle Gaddi


Proverbs 9

 

Scripture

Proverbs 9:10

“Fear of the LORD is the foundation of wisdom. Knowledge of the Holy One results in good judgment.”

Observation-What does it say?

Solomon writes once again in this chapter about wisdom and foolishness. He writes that both are inviting and calling out to those who are willing to listen. The question at hand here is “who are you going to listen to?” I don’t know about you, but I believe all of us desire to be wise. No one wants to be the fool. So in verse 10, Solomon writes that the foundation of gaining wisdom is having fear in the LORD. He continues to write that having knowledge in the Holy One will result in having good judgment. So at the end of the day, it is our understanding of who God is, what He can do, and our fear/respect of Him which will be our building blocks for gaining wisdom and being able to make better decisions in life.

Understanding-What does it mean?

Our relationship with God will help determine if we are living a life filled with wisdom, or foolishness. How’s your relationship with God going?

Oftentimes, people will ask me my opinion about the verse I chose, “Fear of the LORD…”. The best way I can describe it for them is comparing it to my relationship with my father when I was a kid. My dad laid out the ground rules to follow. He told me the consequences if these rules were broken. So you best believe I followed them, FEARING  what would happen to me if I dared break those rules! As the years went on, I began to understand my dad, and what he was trying to do for me and my sisters. I knew that he was only trying to protect us, that he wanted the best for us, and that he loved us so much. I realized that his life experiences and knowledge of this world totally outweighed my own. Once I was able to grasp this, fear was no longer a factor for me following his rules. I followed his ways because I respected his leadership. I honored him for the father he was. I loved him for loving me that much. That is why I chose to follow his ways. And I was the better off and wiser for it!

It’s the same thing when we initially decide to follow Jesus/God. We realize that He is Holy and mighty. We fear His wrath if we disobey Him. But once we build our relationship with Him, we begin to understand His true character and we understand His undying love for us. We understand that He is the author of life, and knows what is best for us. Once we are willing to grasp that, I believe fear will no longer be a factor of why we choose to follow Him and His ways. It will be because we love Him. And we will be wiser because of it!

“But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.” James‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Life Application

Gaining wisdom is not a one time deal. We must seek it daily.

A lot of us can feel that we are already wise in our ways, that life is good right now. But as this chapter states, not only is wisdom calling out to us daily, but foolishness also calls out to us. If we are not careful, we may fall victim to foolishness. That’s why we must seek God and His wisdom daily. We must be obedient to the Holy Spirit when we hear Him calling to us. By doing this we can help prevent making foolish decisions, and falling into life’s traps and pitfalls.

Father God thank You for the wisdom You provide me each day. Thank You for Your protection and Your Holy Spirit. May You grant me an open heart, open mind, and open ears to hear Your Holy Spirit’s leading over my walk in life today. Help me God to make good choices today. In Jesus name, Amen.

 
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-Moses Gaddi


Proverbs 8

 

Scripture

Proverbs 8:5
You who are simple, gain prudence; you who are foolish, set your hearts on [wisdom].

Observation

 Wisdom is always calling out to those who seek her and recognize her value – more precious than silver, costlier than gold and to be treasured more than even rubies. She is trustworthy; those who listen to her walk in prudence and discernment and they enjoy honor and prosperity. Wisdom came forth from God at the dawn of creation and all creation reveals His wisdom. Wisdom exalts those who heed her call and casts down the fool her ignores her voice.  

Understanding

Only someone who admits that they are sick seeks a cure for what ails them. So it is with wisdom. Only one who realizes how ignorant and foolish they are without her will ever value, listen for and heed her voice of instruction. The scriptures are full of counsel to not be wise in our own sight. We are cautioned to not lean on our own understanding and to beware the path that seems right to a man but, in the end, leads to destruction. In fact, the Bible says that as surely as sparks from a fire fly upward, so is man born to trouble and the inclinations of his heart are toward evil all the time. Only someone who agrees with this reality of his self-nature will ever, in recognition of his desperate condition, run post haste to take hold of the wisdom that is from without and from above. The one who is wise in his own self-estimation will scoff at the need for wisdom from any source other than that which is produced from his arrogant pride and which will surely result in failure and fall.

Life Application

While I understand the need to seek God’s wisdom in issues of great import and consequence, I need to value, covet and seek His wisdom in the everyday which I tend to address with my own faulty intellect and motives. God has wisdom for me for every personal interaction; every phone call or email; every thought, attitude, word and action if I will seek it. Wisdom is constantly calling, but I am rarely listening. Only when I silence the noise and voices that compete against her counsel and set aside human reasoning for the guidance of the Holy Spirit will I hear her voice as clear as a clarion call and walk, moment by moment, in the blessing of her offering.

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-Gary Parker


Proverbs 7

 

Scripture

Proverbs 7:1-3

My son, keep my words
    and store up my commands within you.
Keep my commands and you will live;
    guard my teachings as the apple of your eye.
Bind them on your fingers;
    write them on the tablet of your heart.

Observation

For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. – Romans 8:13

This chapter is used to warn against the adulterous woman, which leads to sins of the flesh…and the result of not doing so being death.

Understanding

There’s a second part of verses that stood out to me in this chapter.

21 With persuasive words she led him astray;
    she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her
    like an ox going to the slaughter,
like a deer
a] stepping into a nooseb]
23     till an arrow pierces his liver,
like a bird darting into a snare,
    little knowing it will cost him his life.

Pastor Gary talked in service last week about how the devil is sly and will often work through the people we love and are closest to in order to accomplish his destruction – Adam and Eve, Abraham and Sarah.  It can happen that with people we love or in relationships where we feel “safe” that we let our guards down and the enemy can strike.

In this chapter the person the person used is less subtle but the message is still the same – be on guard. 

So how do we be out in the world but not become of the world?  We must arm ourselves. 

For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— … – 2 Peter 1:5-8

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. – Romans 8:5-8

My son, keep my words
    and store up my commands within you.
Keep my commands and you will live;
    guard my teachings as the apple of your eye.
Bind them on your fingers;
    write them on the tablet of your heart.

-Proverbs 7:1-3

We must actively seek God, be in the word, set our minds on the things of the spirit, keep His commands.  And we must recognize the outcome of NOT doing so – death, destruction of our very soul and being ineffective for the Lord.  That last one breaks my heart, for our whole purpose for being created is to know Him and to make Him known.  How unfortunate it would be to live a life ineffective for the Lord. 

Life Application

God, I’m grateful for the path you’ve called me to as your child – to know you and make you known.  May I be willing to submit to your will at all costs, considering you first.  May I guard my heart against the enemy’s desire to kill, steal and destroy – to render me ineffective for your service.  Keep me in your hands today.  Amen.  

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– Rei

 



Proverbs 6

 

Scripture

Proverbs 6:6

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!

Observation – What does it say?

Solomon encourages his listeners to observe the ants’ hard working and disciplined behavior and to learn wisdom from it.

Understanding – What does it mean?

Last summer I had an ant problem. They had been coming in around the sun window by the sink in our kitchen. At first I tried killing them with bleach cleaner, but new ones would come back after it dried. Katie got on Pinterest and looked up solutions. She tried baking soda and powdered sugar which I guess is like poison. Didn’t work too well. She tried peppermint essential oil. It only worked a short time and the ants would be back as soon as it dried and the smell dissipated. Then I thought, I’ll just figure out where they’re coming in and block it off. They were coming in behind the window sill so I got my caulking gun from the garage and caulked it. No more ants… At least for a few hours. All of a sudden they were everywhere again, all over the wall and countertop. They were coming from the other side of the sill where it meets the drywall. So I caulked there. No more ants… At least for a few more hours. Then I found them coming in a little crack in the window. I caulked about 5 different spots and after each one, within a few hours, they just kept finding another way in. I ended up just leaving the caulking gun on the window sill and had come to expect them to find another way in. We had been playing this game almost a week, when finally, after what I hoped would be the last caulking job I saw them coming in from a different place. I exclaimed, “Those little fools!” And in my anger, started squishing them with my finger. Any I could see. In that moment of irrational rage I heard loud and clear in my mind: 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise!

Woah. Those “little fools” are actually wise. Lol What wisdom can I learn from ants, I thought? Well, they are incredibly persistent. They won’t give up. They aren’t easily deterred. They keep at it and have no plan B. Just plan A: get in Levi’s house and drive him crazy. 

How big can an ant brain possibly be? I don’t know that they have the capacity to think hard about what to do. They know what to do and do it. No excuses. They see no roadblocks, only obstacles they will overcome. 

Life Application

If I’m going to apply that wisdom to my life, there can be no, “God will work it out” attitude while I sit here passively.” There can be no, “I’m just not feeling very motivated.” “I’m too busy.” “I’m tired.” “God sees all the obstacles the enemy is placing in my way. He’ll understand why I’m not going to try hard anymore.”

What areas have I been a sluggard? Where have I lacked persistence? Discipline? Where have I been making excuses instead of just knowing what’s right and doing it?

God, forgive me for the ways I’ve lacked discipline and persistence. Please help us to be a people that passionately pursues you and your mission, who don’t shrink back and get destroyed by our circumstances, but who believe and overcome. Refuel us where we’ve been drained by hurt and discouragement and fan the flame of passion within us to know you and make you known. Amen.
 
– Levi Thompson
 
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Proverbs 5

 

Scripture

Proverbs 5:20-23

“Why should you be intoxicated, my son, with a forbidden woman and embrace the bosom of an adulteress? For a man’s ways are before the eyes of the Lord, and he ponders all his paths. The iniquities of the wicked ensnare him, and he is held fast in the cords of his sin. He dies for lack of discipline, and because of his great folly he is led astray.”

Observation-What does it say?

In this Proverb, an illustration is given about a man who is warned to watch out. Watch out from being enticed by the forbidden woman, who seduces him with her speech and wandering ways. He is told to stay far away from her and to enjoy the wife of his youth, instead of being intoxicated by the adulterous woman. He is told that lack of discipline and foolishness will lead him astray, but to guard his heart towards knowledge and understanding. 

Understanding-What does it mean?

Foolishness leads us astray, but wisdom keeps us safe. 

As I’ve read the book of Proverbs, wisdom is referred to as a female “she/woman/her” and foolishness is also referred to in the same manner. Although this chapter speaks specifically on the issue of adultery, in the big picture view, it refers to more than just adultery, but anything else that entices us towards sin. Anything that is forbidden that would lead us down a foolish path instead of the path of wisdom, must be avoided. The answer to living wisely is to be open to correction and discipline and not to ignore it. Wisdom accepts correction and advice. 

Proverbs 12:1- “Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid.”

‭‭Proverbs 19:20 “Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future.”

‭‭Life Application

Be open to correction and advice from God’s Word and those God has placed in our lives, especially our Spirit filled leaders. We must accept, rather than reject correction. 

A prideful heart will lead to destruction and in this chapter, the man (or woman) is led astray when they choose the foolish path. The foolish person hates discipline/correction and would not listen to the voice and advice of his/her teachers. The wise person however, is humble, pure of heart and teachable. The word wise can also be replaced with the word Spirit and foolishness can be replaced with the word flesh.

Dear Lord, thank You for Your Word and the wisdom in it that is so applicable for our lives today. I admit that there are times when I have gotten very defensive with correction because of pride. Please forgive me and cleanse me of that. I pray that we would remain humble and teachable and submit to correction, especially from You and the leaders You have placed over our lives. We desire to be counted among the wise, not the foolish.  We desire to be led by Your Spirit instead of our flesh. Thank You Lord for not leaving us and helping us through this journey of relinquishing our pride and control. Amen.

 
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-Michelle Gaddi 


Proverbs 4

 

Scripture

Proverbs 4:5-7

“Get wisdom; develop good judgment. Don’t forget my words or turn away from them. Don’t turn your back on wisdom, for she will protect you. Love her, and she will guard you. Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do! And whatever else you do, develop good judgment.”

‭‭Observation-What does it say?

In this chapter Solomon gives some fatherly advice and reminds those who are willing to listen to the importance of gaining wisdom in life. He expresses that wisdom is a life saver. That those who obtain it, will live a righteous life, and glory and honor will be delivered to them. Solomon has seen it all and lived through a lot. Solomon now wants to share the wisdom he was able to obtain through his life experiences, and the wisdom he received from following God.

Understanding-What does it mean?

No one is born with wisdom; God is the One who provides it.

“For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom,”

‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1:25a‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The key to getting wisdom is understanding that no one has it to start with. Ultimately it is God who provides us with wisdom. It also means that anyone can acquire wisdom…if you decide to pursue it.  Wisdom also is not something we achieve through one choice we make in life. It is a journey, a series of many steps in life, in which we receive the truth of God’s Word, and apply them into our lives each and every day. Jesus often spoke of people who had ears but did not listen. The wise will be the ones who choose to listen wholeheartedly to God’s Word, both with their hearts and minds.

“But don’t just listen to God’s word. You must do what it says. Otherwise, you are only fooling yourselves.”-James‬ ‭1:22‬ ‭NLT

Life Application

Ultimate wisdom is within the grasp of our hands. So reach out and obtain it through reading God’s Word.

Life is hard enough as it is. So why try to figure it out all on our own?! Why not take advantage of life’s “instruction manual”?..The Holy Bible! Whether it is taking the advice from someone who was granted wisdom from God, like Solomon, or following the One who overcame everything the world tried to throw His way, Jesus. The Bible is the key to have access to living a wiser life…a life that will grant you wisdom. Will you choose to follow it?

Thank You God for Your Word and the wisdom it brings. Thank You for Your Holy Spirit that speaks to me through it. Thank You Lord for always having my best interest in mind. May the wisdom You grant me allow me to make the right choices today, and may I share that wisdom to those around me. In Your name Jesus, Amen.

 
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-Moses Gaddi


Proverbs 3

 

Scripture

Psalm 2:32
For the
Lord detests the perverse but takes the upright into his confidence.

Observation

As Paul continues to extol the benefits of wisdom, he points out that wisdom brings long life, prosperity, health and favor with both God and man; and that it should never be far from our thoughts and meditations. Also, Paul cautions against arrogance and pride, encouraging the wise to always be humble before the Lord. Paul then says that the wise person is one who honors the Lord with his wealth and first-fruits giving. Finally, Paul describes the wisdom of accepting the discipline of the Lord as a sign of His love and care for us and that we are His children and He, our Father.

Understanding

The life of the Apostle John shows us that there is a special quality of relationship available to those who walk closely and intimately with the Lord. John was privy to some of the most personal and private moments of Jesus’ life. John was one of the “inner circle” of the disciples who, along with James and Peter, was often called aside from the others for a special revelation of Jesus. John was present at the Transfiguration; he was reclining against the Savior’s bosom at the Last Supper and only to Him did Jesus reveal who would be His betrayer. John was the only disciple who did not give in to the temptation of sleep at Gethsemane and, because he kept watch with our Lord as He agonized in prayer and decision, witnessed the most intimate and private moment of communion between Jesus and The Father. After all had deserted Jesus, it was only John who stayed by his Lord’s side and the only disciple still in service and devotion at the foot of the Cross. I believe it was this lifetime of selfless dedication to and fearless identification with Jesus that earned John the honor of caring for Mary after Jesus’ death and the privilege of receiving the Revelation of Jesus Christ and the end times prophecies that he authored those many years later from his place of exile on the Isle of Patmos. Truly, John’s upright life earned him the right, perhaps like no other, to be taken into the Lord’s confidence.

Life Application

The intimacy and special revelation of Jesus that John experienced cannot be appropriated from afar. Peter followed Jesus from far off and ended up denying his Lord. If I do not want to find myself, like Peter, weeping bitterly in the night because of my cowardice and failure, then I dare not wander from my Savior’s side. Abiding in Christ and walking in His righteousness, in intimate and unbroken fellowship, is not merely my only defense against Peter’s fall, but also my only hope to know both the deeper mysteries and a fuller revelation of God.
 
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-Gary Parker